A Different Kind of Leadership Podcast - Part 2
SHOW NOTES:
The Rincon Horizons podcast is where we talk about what it means to reach the summit on your leadership journey. We want to help you lead better so your organization can climb higher. This is the inaugural Rincon Horizons podcast. The quote of the podcast: Dylan Mitchell: “Leadership is always about people over process. Process matters. Systems matter. But if you don't value the people who make all of that possible, it's eventually going to fall apart.”
Todd and Dylan discuss the following in this episode:
What is a Leadership Corner?
Todd explains a leadership corner from his career
Dylan explains a leadership corner from his career
Todd & Dylan recommend leadership books
Links and other items mentioned in the podcast:
Rincon Aerospace: https://www.Rincon.Aero
DM.supply: https://www.dm.supply
The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com
Other items mentioned in the podcast:
Rincon Aerocast video podcast: https://www.Rincon.Aero/Aerocast
Siemens Talking Aerospace Today podcast: https://blogs.sw.siemens.com/podcasts/category/talking-aerospace-today/
At the Table Podcast: https://www.tablegroup.com/at-the-table
Books recommend in the podcast:
The Advantage: Why Organizational Health Trumps Everything Else In Business by Patrick Lencioni: https://a.co/d/0hCIriN
Building a StoryBrand 2.0: Clarify Your Message So Customers Will Listen by Donald Miller: https://a.co/d/huitaVh
The Need to Lead: A TOPGUN Instructor's Lessons on How Leadership Solves Every Challenge by David Berke and Jocko Willink: https://a.co/d/7XHYSoP
Moderator and co-host Dylan Mitchell
Dylan is the Brand Strategist, Creative Director, and Founder of DM.supply. He’s passionate about helping churches, nonprofits, and businesses of all kinds build brands that are clear, meaningful, and built to last.
Find Dylan on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylnmtchll/
Primary contributor and co-host Todd Tuthill
Todd is the Managing Partner of Rincon Aerospace - A consulting company guiding aerospace companies to exceptional.
Todd is an aerospace executive and systems engineer with more than three decades of experience designing aircraft flight control systems
Find Todd on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddtuthill/
AI GENERATED TRANSCRIPT: Rincon Horizons - A Different Kind of Leadership Podcast - Part 2
Dylan Mitchell
Welcome back to the Rincon Horizons podcast. I'm your host Dylan Mitchell. We pick up this conversation in the middle of a conversation with RenCon Aerospace Managing Partner Todd Tuttle. This is part two of our first episode on leadership. And we want to rewind just a few minutes into part one from last time and hear Todd's story on his leadership corner, because we believe that it's so important to the rest of this part two episode. Thanks for joining us.
Dylan Mitchell (13:34)
Of course, more than happy to work with you on that. And you know, thinking about it, you know, again, my intention in that process was, know, wow, that is such a powerful image. And it really is just to hear you share the thought process behind it as well. You know, turning corners, not just climbing up. Can you maybe share one or two of those corners from your own leadership journey?
Todd Tuthill (13:54)
Sure, let's talk about a leadership corner in my journey. We're gonna go back, ⁓ wow, it's been, I guess, more than 20 years. It's hard to imagine it's been that long, but started on the F-35 program. I was the system design lead. 20 years ago and I remember a time in a really early design meeting for the F-35. I was leading the team for the flight control actuation system at the time and we were having a large meeting over the course of a couple days with people from several companies. It was pretty early in my leadership career.
And I kind of think I was probably talking a bit too much in this big meeting, you know I was I was pretty confident my abilities and my opinions at the time Dylan, you know in other words I was pretty arrogant I can admit that now right I was pretty arrogant, but also I saw things very very black and white.
Any topic, any decision that came up, you know, it was either completely right or completely wrong. You know, you were with me and we were together or you're an idiot because he couldn't figure it out. Right. That that's kind of the way Todd saw things. I can say that now. So at the time in the, this large meeting we were having, the vice president for engineering for the company I was working for at the time was at the meeting and he was a mentor of mine at the time he was, ⁓ he really invested a lot, helping me grow as a leader. And, and I remembered distinctly that day, we kind of finished the first morning of the meeting. He kind of pulled me aside and I'm thinking, okay, what I do now? I mean, he looks at me like, like leaders do. And he says, okay, Todd, you're very, very black and white. You need to see more grey. I can still hear him saying it to me today. And.
And I'd love to say that, you know, I took that advice and I snapped into it and I became a better leader. That is not what happened. I didn't just take that advice and run with it. I'll see if I can explain, you know, the immature thought process I had at the time and maybe how I've grown as I've kind of rounded that leadership corner.
I'm probably sure you've heard our listeners have heard this idea about relative truth. You know, you have your truth. I got my truth. Everybody's got their own truth. Right. Well, I was so opposed to that idea. And by the way, I still am this idea of relative truth.
But, I just assumed immediately that that's what this leader was talking to me about. He was talking about relative truth. I'm like, I want nothing to do with relative truth. Why do need to see the grey? It's right or it's wrong, you know? And I'm an engineer, right? Gravity's true. If I jump out of an airplane without a parachute, or you do, if we both do, we're both going to fall and die, right? That's what we're going to do. All right.
Dylan Mitchell (16:39)
Well, that's what I was going to say in as an engineer, relative truth and black and white. That's kind of how you think, right?
Todd Tuthill (16:44)
It's how you think it's what I was taught. It's how I thought. Right. And, know, it's true for all of us. If we jump out of that airplane, we're going to, we're going to die. Right. Whether or not you this is true in so many aspects of our lives, but over time, what I began to realize, my mentor wasn't talking about relative truth at all.
That wasn't his point his point. He was talking about business and about organizational leadership Okay. Now, like you said, gravity may be universally true, right? Like you said, I was an engineer most things about designing an aircraft people may think most things about designing aircraft are pretty black and white You know, you just you just do an equation and it works. The reality is that's not true You can think about things like how should we structure the teams to design and manufacture this aircraft. That's not black and white universally true. Even something more technical like what's the optimal architecture that balances performance and safety for the aircraft. That's not black and white. It's not like that. And my mentor could see that I had applied the laws of physics and math to everything in my world, right? I thought I could answer any question or solve any problem with an equation.Well, what I learned in leadership over time is that people don't work like that. You can't just apply a formula to say this is how a person is going to work, right? And while I certainly believe then and believe now, leaders should be decisive, they should never assume they've cornered the market on wisdom. All one of the best things any leader can do is listen to other people, other opinions. And that's especially true
Dylan Mitchell (18:04)
Sure. Mmm. That's good.
Todd Tuthill (18:29)
when those other opinions are different from yours. Great leaders are never threatened by people who are smarter than them. Who know what they are people who know more than they know. mean, arrogant people like I was then I was threatened by that. But real leaders aren't right. Real leaders aren't threatened by that. Great leaders welcome those conversations and they see them as opportunities to grow and get smarter themselves. And and I think that's what my mentor was saying to me that day. Todd You need more grey.
You need to have some fuzzy conversations with people that don't agree with you and not just shoot off your mouth thinking you know everything in the world. And I think that's what he was telling me. And that conversation, that leadership corner was more than 20 years ago. And I think I'm still learning from that wisdom in that simple statement today.
Dylan Mitchell (19:16)
Man, that's that's incredible. That's wow. There's there's I want listeners to go back and hopefully, you know, whatever platform you're listening on. I know some of them have have the option to bookmark an audio clip, just that that statement that leaders should be decisive, but they should never assume they have cornered the market on wisdom.
I think there's a lot of truth in that, regardless of at what level you find yourself leading.
Todd Tuthill (19:40)
Thank you, Dylan.
Dylan Mitchell (24:41)
⁓ So we thought it'd be fitting to kick things off with just the two of us here today on this inaugural episode. ⁓ But in future episodes, we'll be bringing on some guests. And then one recurring segment that you'll see in every episode is something we're calling the Leadership Corner. So Todd, you want to talk a little bit about what that is?
Todd Tuthill (25:01)
Sure, and I hope I'm not scaring off any future guests here, but. because there's a number of people, ⁓ contacts. I've made people I've worked with it. I'd love to have on the show. ⁓ and, and I'll say, but when you come on, ⁓ we're going to ask you about a leadership corner, you know, and it's, it's not all about sunshine and unicorn and roses in leaderships, right? We all make mistakes and we want to want you to talk about, know, something that happened in your life, in your career could be in business. Like I it could be in any aspect, could be in school and your family where some lesson and you learned some corner you turned as a leader ⁓ that you used to get better, to make yourself a better leader, to make the organizations you are. So that's what this segment's about, about navigating those things in good ways, bad ways, and how that impacted your journey, your leadership journey to become a better leader and to lead organizations better. that's what this is about. And that's it. I'll, and we'll ask all those guests to do that.
Dylan Mitchell (26:04)
I know that, for me personally, ⁓ that's that's one of my big things that I'm looking forward to hearing on this show. I think that, you know, you have a lot of podcasts that will have guests on and in certain capacities and you're kind of you get their their keynote speech or abbreviated version of it whenever they're asked to come and do shows like this.
But to get the chance to ask these leaders that are going to be well-known leaders ⁓ in this industry and in other industries, what is your leadership takeaway? What's your leadership advice? Just very practical nuggets of wisdom. That's going to be really exciting.
Todd Tuthill (26:41)
And if I could, know, maybe Dylan, since I know you're gonna moderate this podcast, but maybe since we don't have another guest, would you be willing to share one of your leadership corners today on this podcast before we go any further? Yeah, you know it. Let's put you on the spot.
Dylan Mitchell (26:57)
Wow, put me on the spot. Todd knows a little bit about my background. I'm a production and AV geek from a past life, so I'm very, very comfortable in the background and to be not seen and not heard. But for you, Todd, ⁓ more than happy to. I'd love to.
Todd Tuthill (27:17)
I appreciate it, Dylan. Talk about a corner in your leadership journey.
Dylan Mitchell (27:21)
Sure. ⁓ So a few years ago, this is probably 2019. ⁓ I moved across the country to help plant a church in Phoenix, Arizona. ⁓ And my role was to lead the creative team and creative director branding, communications, worship environment. If you're familiar with the church world, ⁓ all of those things. ⁓ And it was exciting and terrifying all at once. ⁓
We had people coming in from different states, different backgrounds, and none of us really knew each other. And then to, know, if you're familiar with the timeline of 2019, 2020, I'm sure you kind of know what's coming next. On top of just all of that, while we were trying to build this thing, a global pandemic strikes. Ouch is the delicate way.
Todd Tuthill (28:07)
Ouch. if you could pick the worst time to start a church or an organization or anything or move across the country, what a terrible time. What a terrible time.
Dylan Mitchell (28:17)
What a terrible time. ⁓ And ⁓ to that point, like there's no playbook for that, right? And you can pick up books now and listen to podcasts of leaders, ironically, who, you know, led through the pandemic and they have all of these nuggets of wisdom now. ⁓ And so we had to figure out how to build trust and create culture and do meaningful work all while
We're separated by screens and time zones and six feet of space and masks. ⁓ It was a lot. And ultimately, unfortunately, the church just didn't make it. ⁓ COVID hit hard. And even though there were a lot of factors beyond our control, it was still one of those moments where I had to stop and ask myself, what role did I play ⁓ as a leader? That's something I've I've learned you always have to do even when the failure wasn't directly your fault.
Right? ⁓ You have to look back and ask what could I have done better? What did I learn from this? ⁓
Todd Tuthill (29:18)
And that's kind of hard, you know, but I think it's a key thing leaders do to not want to blame somebody else, but to say, you know, what could I have done different? So I think that that's good advice.
Dylan Mitchell (29:29)
Well, and you know, playing the blame game, it's a game no one wins. ⁓ And so what I learned from that season is this leadership is always about people over process. And, you know, process matters. Systems matter. ⁓ You can have the most beautiful branding, the tightest, you know, worship set, the cleanest Sunday experience. But if you don't value the people who make all of that possible, it's eventually going to fall apart.
The processes only work if the people behind them feel seen, supported and cared for. ⁓ And so that was my biggest takeaway from the experience that I ⁓ didn't go the way I had hoped. ⁓ And that thing, ⁓ fortunately, has shaped how I approach everything now, my business, my family, even my personal habits. ⁓ These days, life looks a little different. ⁓ My design studio, DM Supply is just me. I don't have a team to lead, at least not in the traditional sense.
But I do lead myself and more importantly, I lead at home. My family is absolutely the most important team I'll ever get the privilege to be a part of. ⁓ Balancing multiple clients, creative projects and still trying to be a good husband and a dad can feel impossible some days. And you know, a good project management platform helps. But my daughter, who's almost eight months old, simply does not care what is on my base camp project for the day. She just wants dad.
Todd Tuthill (30:55)
Kids are kind of like that. kind of humble us, don't they?
Dylan Mitchell (30:55)
And she's my first, so I'm learning that. ⁓ So I've had to adjust my rhythms. I wake up an hour earlier than everyone else in the house. Just time for a quick devotional, a quick workout, maybe a cup of coffee before the day starts. And I'm not just thrown into the chaos of the day. ⁓ It's not glamorous. And by no means is it always easy, especially after something like a cross-country flight where I'd much rather just sleep in. But.
Dylan Mitchell (31:25)
The intentional choice that intentional choice of showing up early to lead myself sets the tone for my work and my family for the rest of the day. ⁓ I know he mentioned earlier Top Gun. There is a line in the OG Top Gun. I might be a little bit of a purist. ⁓ Not not to say that Maverick was not wonderful because it was, ⁓ but there's a line that has always stuck with me. Tom Skerritt's character Viper says to Maverick,
Todd Tuthill (31:43)
A little bit, just a little bit,
Dylan Mitchell (31:55)
⁓ A good pilot is compelled to evaluate what's happened so he can apply what he's learned and I thought about doing that and you know Tom scared impression kind of voice and I just don't have that ⁓ But that that right there is leadership whether you're you're leading a company a team your family or just yourself Things will go wrong Processes will fail plans will change
Todd Tuthill (32:05)
That could have been cool, but I guess maybe not.
Dylan Mitchell (32:22)
But what defines you as a leader is what you do next. And if you're willing to take ownership, learn from it, keep moving forward, ⁓ I think you're growing into the kind of leader who's worth following.
Todd Tuthill (32:33)
Yeah. And wow, there's, such incredible wisdom in all that Dylan. Thank you for sharing that. And I kind of go back to, where you start because the, the engineer brain in me wants to think it is about system and process. And like you said, it's really about people and leadership is about people. It's messy. Leadership is messy. People are messy. So I think that's really, really good advice on so many levels. So thank you for sharing that and thank you for bringing in the Top Gun reference too and bringing in little more aerospace to the Not Aerospace podcast.
Dylan Mitchell (33:09)
Gotta give it a little bit of that flair. And
Todd Tuthill (33:10)
That's right. That's exactly right.
Dylan Mitchell (33:13)
so, you know, to kind of segue out of that, there's another recurring piece that we've talked about that that's gonna be a book recommendation. Each week we'll ask Todd and our guests to share a leadership book that's impacted them. And so I wanted to take a chance on this inaugural episode to ask you, Todd, what's one of your go-to recommendations?
Todd Tuthill (33:32)
And there are so many. But I think if people come to me and say, what's my number one favorite leadership book? It has to be a book called The Advantage. It's by an author and speaker called Patrick Lencioni. Just there's so many good things about this book. If you're into I'm in audible. I don't know if you're in audible.
Dylan Mitchell (33:54)
Absolutely.
Todd Tuthill (33:54)
Dylan but that's how I listened to books but you know This is a great book for your next flight, you know, because you're gonna be standing in the TSA line for four hours anyway You know so download the book and I get out your you know, your
Todd Tuthill (34:07)
air pods and just stand in line and don't be frustrated Listen to this book. It's awesome The book explains that I won't give the whole book away But I'll give the gist of it away because you can go right to his website and it's right there it's all about organizational leadership and Lencioni's only theory is Organizational health trumps everything else in business. It's more important than anything else and and it's really There's four fundamental practices here what he calls disciplines that he talks about in the book and the first one is Building a cohesive leadership team, you know, and he talks about what that means And it's not that everybody on the team likes each other or is your best friend because that rarely happens in business. But ⁓ it's about building mutual trust and respect. And he goes into what that means. I won't go into all of it, but it's it's this ⁓ it's this ability and this this trust that you have to say really difficult, hard things to other people,
Dylan Mitchell (34:53)
You
Todd Tuthill (35:11)
to tell them what you really think, you know, it
Dylan Mitchell (35:13)
And and I think what's interesting about that Todd is that a lot of people I think especially me in particular growing up ⁓ I had this preconceived notion that to be a leader like you're just pre wired to have those those conversations ⁓ And I learned you know later on in my career That's absolutely not true, and it can't there are some that are wired that way and that's great And there are some that are not wired that way and it takes work.
Todd Tuthill (35:41)
Most people aren't, most people ⁓ want to avoid the hard conversation, I think, because that's sometimes the easier path out, least easier at the time. But real leaders on a real cohesive leadership team, real cohesive leadership team, ⁓ they're brave enough, they trust each other enough to say what they really think.
And that's so important in building that cohesive leadership team to build that trust and respect sets. That's number one, build that cohesive leadership team. They trust each other enough to have the real discussions at the time about what needs to be said. And then the first job of that leadership team is discipline two it's to create clarity. And there's a, there's a mission that the organization has a goal. They have ⁓ a direction.
A set of projects and it and all those issues and it's creating clarity around those issues and and that really means total total alignment. What what Lencioni calls there's no daylight between you. You know when when the leadership team goes out in front of other staff, they're standing shoulder to shoulder literally and figuratively no daylight between them and they create that clarity. Now once you've created that clarity, the next discipline is to over communicate it.
Just over it you've got to say it to your staff tell your company tell your organization This is what we're about. This is where we're going This is the direction and you communicate it and then you communicate it again And then when you think you're done you communicate it again It's over communicate clarity and in the fourth discipline you can guess it's about clarity, too It's to reinforce that clarity in all the systems in your organization. So, you know, it's ⁓
Todd Tuthill (37:27)
Couple of C's, right? Cohesive team and clarity, clarity, clarity. That's, what this is about. It's a fantastic read. ⁓ kind of, if you're a Lencioni only fan, like I am, ⁓ you, you know, that most of his books are kind of a leadership fable. tells a story and then you learn through the story, ⁓ that kind of comes out in, in, the book. this book is not like that. It's different than his other books. It is just kind of a greatest hits where he pulls in.
A lot of those lessons from all the other books to kind of reinforce that. So it sounds easy, ⁓ on the top of really, that's all, that's all it takes to build a good company is create a great team and create and communicate clarity. How I could do that. Well, it's a lot harder than you think. And if you think about some of the unhealthy organizations you've been a part of, you can probably think about situations where you're working with some coworkers.
And you're quite, you're not quite sure what your role is versus what their role is because your leaders haven't fully clarified that, or you're not sure what's important. You know, maybe, maybe your business is, is not doing as well as you think it should be. And some things have to be cut in, we on the same page about what stays and what goes and what's important? You know, that's it. It sounds easy, but it's not. and I think a lot of us have been there.
Dylan Mitchell (38:31)
Sure. Yes, I was just about to say, I think that some of the best leadership principles are the ones that are like, that's really easy. Like it can't be that simple. And in truth, it usually is that simple. We're just making it too complicated.
Todd Tuthill (39:03)
Yeah, and he's he works for a company. It's called the table group. That's his consulting company and he's got a great podcast too. So if you're looking for another great podcast on leadership, it's called at the table. So that ⁓ that's my book recommendation today.
Dylan Mitchell (39:18)
That's a good one. ⁓ I've read that one or I should say I've listened to it ⁓ on audible audible. If you're listening, you want to throw us a sponsorship. We are. are big fans of audible ⁓ and we'll toss a link in the, in the show notes to at the table and this book as well. ⁓ Todd, what else didn't we talk about today?
Todd Tuthill (39:40)
Well, you probably you're going to be the moderator for the podcast. So, you since it is our first one, we don't have a guest. Maybe you want to throw out some book recommendations, too. Maybe you want to give us one.
Dylan Mitchell (39:51)
Okay, if I can ⁓ break the rule and recommend two books, it's the inaugural episode.
Todd Tuthill (39:56)
No, you're going to break. You're going to break the rules at the very beginning. I don't know. I don't know if the structured engineer in me can stand that, but I'll, I'll try to let it slip. I guess I got to see the grey. You're right. I'll, I'll, I'll let it go this time, Dylan.
Dylan Mitchell (40:00)
I mean, if not now, then when? You've got to see that you got to see the grey
Thank you. I actually have two that have really shaped how I think about leadership from totally different angles. And I'll tell you about the first one and the second one. The second book is a much more recent book that actually came out in October of twenty twenty five. So just about a month ago, ⁓ if even that. And I just plowed through it on Audible. And so I had to had to include it in this. ⁓ But the first is a book called Building a Story Brand by Donald Miller. And it's one that I think I referred to you, Todd. ⁓
Todd Tuthill (40:41)
Yeah, it's a great book. Yeah. You referred that to me. Read that a month ago or so and a fantastic book. If you're trying to build a brand and communicate really, really good book.
Dylan Mitchell (40:51)
It's technically a marketing book, but honestly, it's just as much about leadership. In my opinion, the whole idea is, you know, is that your business or your team, you're not the hero in the story. The person you're serving is and you're the guide who is charged to help them win. That mindset has changed the way that I approach both design and leadership. ⁓ When you start leading like a guide by listening first and understanding what the problem is,
And in helping others succeed everything else just seems to click. It's simple. It's clear and honestly it just works and that's you know, kind of what I said about At the table as well
Todd Tuthill (41:31)
Yeah. And like you said, I've, I've read this book and, highly recommend it. I will say though that something interesting about the book and Dylan, you probably don't even know this as I was reading the book, ⁓ the, author has this other kind of side hustle. does, ⁓ about an AI generated, ⁓ kind of website to do AI branding automatically for you. where you answer all these questions. know, like, I don't need a creative director like Dylan, I'll just use the AI. So I signed up for a week of his AI before I had to pay for it. I wasn't as impressed. I'll just say, and maybe I'm old fashioned, I don't know. you know, I've done in my former life at Siemens did a lot of work with AI. So I'm very big on AI. And I've talked about AI a lot. And I believe it's coming. But in this case, I kind of like to work with the real person in the creative design process. I'll say, I don't know if I was so much ⁓ so high on ⁓ the AI, letting the AI take over and design my brand for me.
Dylan Mitchell (42:35)
No knock on Donald Miller or the story brand principles or the framework
Todd Tuthill (42:37)
⁓ Still a great book, still a great book. Still absolutely recommend the book. Maybe you'll have more success with it. Maybe it was me. Maybe I didn't answer the prompts very well, but. That's right, that's right.
Dylan Mitchell (42:45)
Don't tell him that don't tell him that Selfishly, you know as a creative director. I am very happy that some people still prefer the human touch to it ⁓ But the second book that I talked about just a second ago that one like I said actually came out in late October It is called the need to lead by Dave Burke and that's kind of a play on the need for speed from Top Gun He is a former Marine Corps fighter pilot and Top Gun instructor
⁓ And if you read or listen to this book, you'll kind of get to take a peek at his resume and you know, it's worth it's worth its in gold just to listen to the resume because this guy's got one. ⁓ But this this book ⁓ is on how he approaches leadership from the opposite end of the spectrum of the first one that I recommended. This one kind of leans more into the pressure, precision and accountability side of it. And he says that every problem is a leadership problem.
And to my to my leadership corner earlier, he is absolutely right. This book is full of stories from aviation and combat, but the lessons can be applied everywhere. It's about taking ownership, staying calm under pressure and leading where you are, not waiting for a title to show up to empower you to lead. ⁓ And you you wouldn't think it between the two if you were to look at them in Barnes and Noble or on Amazon.
But these two books complement each other really well one teaches you how to tell a clear story And the other teaches you how to live it out with clarity to your point Todd ⁓ and with courage
Todd Tuthill (44:24)
This I tell you Dylan is we were doing pre-production for the podcast. I saw this book I've never read this book, but I'll tell you I've already gone to my audible subscription and downloaded this one in and I noticed something else cool about this book. There's a Forward by and think maybe a co-author I think he's a co-author Jocko Willink and I've read a number of other of his books He's a former Navy SEAL And he's done some really really good books about leadership probably some that I'll recommend in the future, but I I can't wait to read this for all kinds of reasons.
Dylan Mitchell (44:56)
It's great.
Todd Tuthill (45:01)
So Dylan, before we go, I kind of want to do a quick shout out to you. As you kind of referenced before, you did all the, I talked to you about the creative direction and the way my business should go. And you've been, we've been working together now for more than a month. And I just want to say thank you for all the hard work you've done on the website, on the logos, on the brand and everything. And I'll just say to listeners here.
If you're looking for somebody to help you with the website with brand with something else, talk to Dylan. Dylan's great. You can see ⁓ actual cool stand up guy here on the podcast. Also great, great interest in aerospace. So kind of kiddard spirits there. But I just want to just shout out to Dylan here on this first episode for all the hard work you've done to put all these assets together. And we'll put a link in the show notes ⁓ to match his website. So so thank you, Dylan.
Dylan Mitchell (45:56)
Well, thank you, Todd. I appreciate that. And it has truly been a very special project to get to work on projects, I should say, you know, what the listeners can't see because this is an audio podcast. I live on board Naval Air Station, the more with my wife ⁓ and I get to hear ⁓ jets that you worked on fly over my head every day. So when you approached me about this project, it was it was ⁓ one that I was very excited to be a part of.
So thank you so much.
Todd Tuthill (46:25)
So how cool is that jet noise, the sound of freedom, and you hear it every day, right?
Dylan Mitchell (46:30)
That's right. ⁓ So like I said, thank you, Todd. And to everyone listening, thank you so much for taking the time to join in with us. ⁓ This episode, the inaugural episode, this is just the start. Every episode will unpack the moments and decisions that shape us as leaders, be it at work, at home and everywhere in between. ⁓ Like we've said, our goal is simple to help you lead better and climb higher wherever you are. ⁓
If today's conversation gave you something to think about and we hope it did ⁓ share it with your friend or colleague who's on their own leadership journey because we all are on one. And if you'd to learn more about Rincon aerospace or connect with Todd, you'll find all the links in the show notes or at Rincon RINCON.AERO ⁓ But for now, I'm Dylan Mitchell alongside Todd Tuthill Thanks for listening and we'll see you next time.